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Old 08-15-2007, 10:46 AM   #1
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Thumbs up Lexus Safety Probe widens - unintended acceleration.

in addidtion to their class action lawsuit on faulty airbags on this model..

evidently it isn't lexuses fault, it is the fault of the floormats that were found in many but no t all cases..

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LEXUS SAFETY PROBE WIDENS: 40 report unintended acceleration
August 15, 2007

BY JUSTIN HYDE

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Federal regulators have stepped up an investigation into 98,454 Lexus ES 350 sedans after amassing 40 reports of unintended acceleration, including eight crashes and 12 injuries, along with cases in which drivers said their cars stopped only after an accident.

Toyota Motor Co. told safety officials that the problem appeared to be caused by loose floor mats and contends that it dealt with the flaw through a mailing to customers earlier this year. But the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration decided to continue its investigation last week to verify whether Toyota's efforts were sufficient.

Sudden acceleration problems carry a unique stigma in the U.S. auto industry, due to the collapse of the Audi brand in the late 1980s following a "60 Minutes" report alleging runaway vehicles. Federal safety officials later cleared Audi, but it took years for the company to clear its name with customers.

While some auto safety advocates maintain that several models still suffer from sudden acceleration, NHTSA has investigated hundreds of such complaints over the past two decades but rarely found any defects. Most of the complaints have been blamed on drivers mistaking the accelerator for the brake.

But in the Lexus investigation, NHTSA verified several of the complaints. One driver told the agency the vehicle had hit speeds of 100 m.p.h. over a 6-mile stretch of freeway due to the problem. A Michigan woman said the problem caused her to lose control of her Lexus, triggering a rollover crash on I-75 that totaled her car. NHTSA does not release the names of people who file complaints.

NHTSA found an all-season floor mat that Lexus sold as an option in a majority of the cases it reviewed. The rubber mat was sold as a replacement for the standard mats and should be secured by clips to the car's carpet. If left unclipped and installed over the regular mats, it can slide under the accelerator pedal.

In its letter sent in April, after NHTSA launched its investigation, Toyota told owners to not use the mat on top of the regular floor mats, and reminded them to check for proper installation. It also sent an orange warning sticker that owners were supposed to attach to the underside of the all-season mat.

As an option, the ES 350 offers an engine start-stop button instead of a traditional key. Some drivers tried to shut off the engine by pressing the button as the car accelerated, but without success. Toyota said that once the engine is running, owners must hold the button down for at least 3 seconds to shut it off in an emergency.

NHTSA's decision last week to upgrade its investigation to an engineering analysis means that it will review Toyota's mailings and perhaps solicit information from other automakers.

Lexus spokesman Greg Thome said that the company does not believe any safety defect exists with the ES 350 and that it was cooperating with NHTSA.
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Old 08-15-2007, 10:53 AM   #2
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:47 PM   #3
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Evidently there have been unintended acceleration issues withthe prius too.
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:49 PM   #4
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It's Fords fault!
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:54 PM   #5
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I thought only people over the age of 90 suffered from unintended acceleration????
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:56 PM   #6
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It's Fords fault!


sure isn't lexus' fault

it is their dumb customers don't you know..
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Old 08-15-2007, 02:16 PM   #7
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we had a guy here at work not too long ago drive a company truck (98 F150) up over a parking curb and though the side of a metal building.

During the investigation he blamed the truck of course.
He said he had 2 feet on the brakes and couldn't hold it back.
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Old 08-15-2007, 02:20 PM   #8
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My sisters 1994 chevy 1500 accelerator pedal has stuck a few times and it did it once with me a few years ago heading to a red light but it got unstuck after a couple seconds after I sh!t my pants.
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Old 08-15-2007, 02:23 PM   #9
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He said he had 2 feet on the brakes and couldn't hold it back.



BS u can floor a vehical in first gear while slamming on the brakes and still stop rather quickly.
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Old 08-15-2007, 02:34 PM   #10
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once again another reason why the gap isnt as wide, if at all there, between imports and domestics in terms of reliability.
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Old 08-15-2007, 02:45 PM   #11
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once again another reason why the gap isnt as wide, if at all there, between imports and domestics in terms of reliability.



I predict we'll see a lot more of those types of incidents affecting imports. After all, that's what all the stupid people are driving these days.

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