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Mishkin · 08-31-2020, 07:50 AM

wear your mask

https://nbc25news.com/news/local/cdc...cal-conditions

CDC: 94% of Covid-19 deaths had underlying medical conditions

berad001 · 08-31-2020, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mishkin

wear your mask

https://nbc25news.com/news/local/cdc...cal-conditions

CDC: 94% of Covid-19 deaths had underlying medical conditions

Oh I just posted this in the covid thread

I've yet to read it thoroughly tho.

Darius · 08-31-2020, 09:31 AM

We’ve known pre existing conditions were a major factor the entire time. Why is it funny now that they have broken that part of the data out?

FearFactor · 08-31-2020, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Darius

We’ve known pre existing conditions were a major factor the entire time. Why is it funny now that they have broken that part of the data out?

You're responding to a person who is literally a retard, and you're surprised retard continues to retard?

BONESTOCK · 08-31-2020, 09:44 AM

Oh wait...so it's not as bad as the media says?

berad001 · 08-31-2020, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Darius

We’ve known pre existing conditions were a major factor the entire time. Why is it funny now that they have broken that part of the data out?

pre existing conditions are a major factor in mortality rates for EVERYTHING

If this is true, it sort of doesn't bode well for the media coverage/panic/etc is why it's disconcerting. If this is true wouldn't it make more sense to protect those who are high risk, vs shutting down the entire country and allowing it to devolve into mad max?

BONESTOCK · 08-31-2020, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by berad001

pre existing conditions are a major factor in mortality rates for EVERYTHING

If this is true, it sort of doesn't bode well for the media coverage/panic/etc is why it's disconcerting. If this is true wouldn't it make more sense to protect those who are high risk, vs shutting down the entire country and allowing it to devolve into mad max?

This guy.....know's what up.

jmlufkins · 08-31-2020, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by berad001

pre existing conditions are a major factor in mortality rates for EVERYTHING

If this is true, it sort of doesn't bode well for the media coverage/panic/etc is why it's disconcerting. If this is true wouldn't it make more sense to protect those who are high risk, vs shutting down the entire country and allowing it to devolve into mad max?

Mishkin · 08-31-2020, 10:18 AM

https://amgreatness.com/2020/08/31/n...-virus-itself/

New Study Shows COVID-19 Lockdowns 10 Times More Deadly Than Virus Itself

STAY SAFE ! ! ! !

Darius · 08-31-2020, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by berad001

pre existing conditions are a major factor in mortality rates for EVERYTHING

If this is true, it sort of doesn't bode well for the media coverage/panic/etc is why it's disconcerting. If this is true wouldn't it make more sense to protect those who are high risk, vs shutting down the entire country and allowing it to devolve into mad max?

I agree. Media hyped it to the moon. Most of that hype was when there was a lot of unknowns. For now, they’re simply asking us to wear masks. No? I don’t have a problem wearing a mask and encourage others to do the same since it appears to be pretty contagious and does still pose a risk to others.

We’re all getting fleeced

beanbat · 08-31-2020, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Darius

We’ve known pre existing conditions were a major factor the entire time. Why is it funny now that they have broken that part of the data out?

Let me spell it out so that even a f@ggot like you can understand.

Global death rate due to covid: 3.4%

If 94% die due to being fvcked up already, that leaves 6% of the covid deaths being normies.

6% of 3.4% = 0.2%

Still think you need to shut the whole world down?

Darius · 08-31-2020, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by beanbat

Still think you need to shut the whole world down?

I don’t recall ever stating that was what should be happening.

Edit: a lot of those pre existing conditions were manageable until covid came by the way. Diabetes for example.

Cream Puff · 08-31-2020, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by beanbat

Let me spell it out so that even a f@ggot like you can understand.

Global death rate due to covid: 3.4%

If 94% die due to being fvcked up already, that leaves 6% of the covid deaths being normies.

6% of 3.4% = 0.2%

Still think you need to shut the whole world down?

boy I guess all these office precautions were worth it after-all.. maybe we should parachute out the window instead of taking the elevator to protect each other further

berad001 · 08-31-2020, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Darius

I agree. Media hyped it to the moon. Most of that hype was when there was a lot of unknowns. For now, they’re simply asking us to wear masks. No? I don’t have a problem wearing a mask and encourage others to do the same since it appears to be pretty contagious and does still pose a risk to others.

We’re all getting fleeced

IDK... the statistics have always sort of been available but couldn't be confirmed as accurate so early on. We knew what we knew and the media easily dismissed it and chose to highlight the more grim components. As time goes on the severity of it seems to continue to dwindle. The numbers myself/bean/a few others cited in the very begging have actually shifted in OUR favor

I don't mind the mask thing, I don't know about other states but the mask mandate is just the icing on the cake. They regularly shut down state parks, don't let you gather in groups of more than X, won't allow certain business to open at capacity, etc etc.

Just before covid I moved into my new house. It NEEDS new HVAC, I commissioned a total replacement. The state forced all the town offices to close, the state closed all of its permitting as well. So I've paid the deposit but the town/state won't issue the permits

one of my best friends just as covid started bought this beautiful 60's GTO judge clone. Gets it home, plans to register it... yeah all the offices are closed

The mask mandate is just a tiny aspect of the fvckery here in MA. It is completely unnecessary and the backlash 100% is going to be MUCH more severe than the virus itself... Case in point... I know zero people who straight up died of covid, but I know SEVERAL people who've killed themselves due to the collateral damage of the virus.

Darius · 08-31-2020, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by berad001

IDK... the statistics have always sort of been available but couldn't be confirmed as accurate so early on. We knew what we knew and the media easily dismissed it and chose to highlight the more grim components. As time goes on the severity of it seems to continue to dwindle. The numbers myself/bean/a few others cited in the very begging have actually shifted in OUR favor

I don't mind the mask thing, I don't know about other states but the mask mandate is just the icing on the cake. They regularly shut down state parks, don't let you gather in groups of more than X, won't allow certain business to open at capacity, etc etc.

Just before covid I moved into my new house. It NEEDS new HVAC, I commissioned a total replacement. The state forced all the town offices to close, the state closed all of its permitting as well. So I've paid the deposit but the town/state won't issue the permits

one of my best friends just as covid started bought this beautiful 60's GTO judge clone. Gets it home, plans to register it... yeah all the offices are closed

The mask mandate is just a tiny aspect of the fvckery here in MA. It is completely unnecessary and the backlash 100% is going to be MUCH more severe than the virus itself... Case in point... I know zero people who straight up died of covid, but I know SEVERAL people who've killed themselves due to the collateral damage of the virus.

I agree it’s a total train wreck. Some leadership from Trump could have saved a lot of the fallout from the shutdowns instead of pinning governors against each other.

We can continue spinning the numbers to suit each other’s narratives but the bottom line is a lot of people got sick and a lot of people are now in a bad spot financially because of this shiit sick or not. I want to hit the undo button just like everybody else. So that’s why I’m willing to throw a mask on and do what I can to lessen the spread so we can all get back to normal.

The original post suggests wearing a mask is stupid because they took the same set of data and presented it differently. Also suggests anybody with a pre existing condition was going to die anyway. We all know that is simply not true.

berad001 · 08-31-2020, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Darius

I agree it’s a total train wreck. Some leadership from Trump could have saved a lot of the fallout from the shutdowns instead of pinning governors against each other.

We can continue spinning the numbers to suit each other’s narratives but the bottom line is a lot of people got sick and a lot of people are now in a bad spot financially because of this shiit sick or not. I want to hit the undo button just like everybody else. So that’s why I’m willing to throw a mask on and do what I can to lessen the spread so we can all get back to normal.

The original post suggests wearing a mask is stupid because they took the same set of data and presented it differently. Also suggests anybody with a pre existing condition was going to die anyway. We all know that is simply not true.

Right, I agree. I also do not care about the mask mandate. It is a law here and entirely out of respect for others I'll wear it. The second the social distancing and masks become optional I'll discontinue. Wearing a masks and the effectiveness isn't a hill I'll die on, I have my theories about it but in the end don't really give a shyt UNLESS they try to make it the new normal... in which case go fvck yourself

Mr Hollywood · 08-31-2020, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Darius

I don’t recall ever stating that was what should be happening.

Edit: a lot of those pre existing conditions were manageable until covid came by the way. Diabetes for example.

Before Covid, the cause of death on the death certificates for a lot of those cases would be what the preexisting condition was, like they do with the flu -if someone dies of heart attack with the flu, the cause of death is heart attack. If some dies of a heart attack with Covid, the cause of death is Covid.
That's a problem.

Mr Hollywood · 08-31-2020, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by berad001

pre existing conditions are a major factor in mortality rates for EVERYTHING

If this is true, it sort of doesn't bode well for the media coverage/panic/etc is why it's disconcerting. If this is true wouldn't it make more sense to protect those who are high risk, vs shutting down the entire country and allowing it to devolve into mad max?

Mr Hollywood · 08-31-2020, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BONESTOCK

This guy.....know's what up.

I thought you and Berad are tight, and you call him "this guy"? Berad likes to be called Big Mac Daddy, and we've already decided that everybody loves Berad.
So say "I love you, Big Mac Daddy."

Mr Hollywood · 08-31-2020, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Darius

I agree it’s a total train wreck. Some leadership from Trump could have saved a lot of the fallout from the shutdowns instead of pinning governors against each other.

I knew that was coming.

berad001 · 08-31-2020, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Hollywood

I thought you and Berad are tight, and you call him "this guy"? Berad likes to be called Big Mac Daddy, and we've already decided that everybody loves Berad.
So say "I love you, Big Mac Daddy."

BONESTOCK · 08-31-2020, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Hollywood

I thought you and Berad are tight, and you call him "this guy"? Berad likes to be called Big Mac Daddy, and we've already decided that everybody loves Berad.
So say "I love you, Big Mac Daddy."

:niglaugh:

Mr Hollywood · 08-31-2020, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by berad001

CGSVT · 08-31-2020, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Darius

I agree. Media hyped it to the moon. Most of that hype was when there was a lot of unknowns. For now, they’re simply asking us to wear masks. No? I don’t have a problem wearing a mask and encourage others to do the same since it appears to be pretty contagious and does still pose a risk to others.

We’re all getting fleeced

Ummmm. No. That is not all they are "simply" asking us to do. Not sure where you live but we are still shut down here in So Cal except for Walmart, Costco, Home Depot and weed shops. Oh, and nasty buses and subways, ride those all you want. No gyms, no haircuts, no churches. Oh, but want to riot in L.A.? Yeah, no problem.

BONESTOCK · 08-31-2020, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CGSVT

Ummmm. No. That is not all they are "simply" asking us to do. Not sure where you live but we are still shut down here in So Cal except for Walmart, Costco, Home Depot and weed shops. Oh, and nasty buses and subways, ride those all you want. No gyms, no haircuts, no churches. Oh, but want to riot in L.A.? Yeah, no problem.

It's so fvcking a$$ backwards!

I'm thankful that our mma/bjj school opened back up. Gotta wear the stupid masks but I'll imagine I'm just altitude training.

berad001 · 08-31-2020, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CGSVT

Ummmm. No. That is not all they are "simply" asking us to do. Not sure where you live but we are still shut down here in So Cal except for Walmart, Costco, Home Depot and weed shops. Oh, and nasty buses and subways, ride those all you want. No gyms, no haircuts, no churches. Oh, but want to riot in L.A.? Yeah, no problem.

To me that was one of the most disturbing aspects... we're in phase 3 of 4 now, so some business' were able to open assuming they can satisfy all the legal criteria and follow capacity guidelines... So what does that all mean here? From day one it was perfectly fine to spend all day in walmart looking at and buying whatever... but they forced the small business owners to close. Even now some of them don't have the layout/ability to satisfy mandated criteria and are still closed.

Good example, the small electronics store I go to for phone repair/accessories isn't allowed to open (assuming not enough room for the 6' distancing and lack of multiple entries/exits) but if I want to grab a new phone/cord/case/etc it isn't a problem to hitup bestbuy. BTW last time I was down that way, the small electronics store is for lease.

If I quickly want to run down to the local paint shop for a gallon of interior, nope... but it's perfectly fine to spend all day in homedepot. The fuq kinda broken ass retarded logic? and then the local gov is like "OUR UNEMPLOYMENT" YOU DID THAT FVCK FACES! YOU AND YOUR DUMB AS FVCK IDIOTIC LOGIC.

BONESTOCK · 08-31-2020, 01:37 PM

Yup...it's so sad for the small business owners.

beanbat · 08-31-2020, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Darius

I agree it’s a total train wreck. Some leadership from Trump could have saved a lot of the fallout from the shutdowns instead of pinning governors against each other.

We can continue spinning the numbers to suit each other’s narratives but the bottom line is a lot of people got sick and a lot of people are now in a bad spot financially because of this shiit sick or not. I want to hit the undo button just like everybody else. So that’s why I’m willing to throw a mask on and do what I can to lessen the spread so we can all get back to normal.

The original post suggests wearing a mask is stupid because they took the same set of data and presented it differently. Also suggests anybody with a pre existing condition was going to die anyway. We all know that is simply not true.

So it's Trump's fault that your idiot governor and mayor destroyed new York?

beanbat · 08-31-2020, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CGSVT

Ummmm. No. That is not all they are "simply" asking us to do. Not sure where you live but we are still shut down here in So Cal except for Walmart, Costco, Home Depot and weed shops. Oh, and nasty buses and subways, ride those all you want. No gyms, no haircuts, no churches. Oh, but want to riot in L.A.? Yeah, no problem.

Don't forget that if you're black you don't need to wear a mask because racism and hurt feelings and such.

Cream Puff · 08-31-2020, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Darius

I agree it’s a total train wreck. Some leadership from Trump could have saved a lot of the fallout from the shutdowns instead of pinning governors against each other.

We can continue spinning the numbers to suit each other’s narratives but the bottom line is a lot of people got sick and a lot of people are now in a bad spot financially because of this shiit sick or not. I want to hit the undo button just like everybody else. So that’s why I’m willing to throw a mask on and do what I can to lessen the spread so we can all get back to normal.

The original post suggests wearing a mask is stupid because they took the same set of data and presented it differently. Also suggests anybody with a pre existing condition was going to die anyway. We all know that is simply not true.

so serious question, given that its an election year and orange man is a bad orange man.

What leadership examples exactly do you think trump could have displayed that would have got the liberal leaders of these cities or states would have accepted?

one example will suffice.

berad001 · 08-31-2020, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BONESTOCK

Yup...it's so sad for the small business owners.

It really is... I see the places closed, I know people personally who took a chance on a biz, succeeded and by no fault of their own are essentially fvcked.

Mr Hollywood · 08-31-2020, 02:11 PM

I think Edweiser63 died of corona.

Mr Hollywood · 08-31-2020, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by berad001

It really is... I see the places closed, I know people personally who took a chance on a biz, succeeded and by no fault of their own are essentially fvcked.

and a lot of the businesses covid didn't destroy, the "peaceful" protestors did, and anyone that tries to stop them is racist.

berad001 · 08-31-2020, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Hollywood

and a lot of the businesses covid didn't destroy, the "peaceful" protestors did.

That is also true from what I've seen on the TV masheen, I don't have much experience with it here... For whatever reason they shut the violent BLM BS down rather quickly. What we do have here is white people in affluent communities protesting. I haven't seen a black protesting this stuff in weeks upon weeks. I drove through a very affluent town today, a good looking white women standing in the middle of a traffic circle with a display of BLM free standing posters. She's just standing there waving at people having a good ole time

I pictured putting the rover in cactus mode and running her the fvck over.

Mr Hollywood · 08-31-2020, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by berad001

That is also true from what I've seen on the TV masheen, I don't have much experience with it here... For whatever reason they shut the violent BLM BS down rather quickly. What we do have here is white people in affluent communities protesting. I haven't seen a black protesting this stuff in weeks upon weeks. I drove through a very affluent town today, a good looking white women standing in the middle of a traffic circle with a display of BLM free standing posters. She's just standing there waving at people having a good ole time

I pictured putting the rover in cactus mode and running her the fvck over.

cactus mode

teCh0010 · 08-31-2020, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mishkin

wear your mask

https://nbc25news.com/news/local/cdc...cal-conditions

CDC: 94% of Covid-19 deaths had underlying medical conditions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsVh...r7T2PgvktMhBQc

BONESTOCK · 08-31-2020, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by teCh0010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsVh...r7T2PgvktMhBQc

Yeah....so unhealthy people should be the ones locked down. Not the whole country.

Mr Hollywood · 08-31-2020, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by teCh0010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsVh...r7T2PgvktMhBQc

I didn't watch the video, because you're always wrestling with Mishkin, so it's probably something you found that confirms your bias.

If you have covid and die, Covid will be on the certificate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veLB...ature=youtu.be
The flu isn't counted that way, the CDC said it, and said it way before Covid was a thought. Google "cdc influenza death certificate"

Edit: You might have to set the search for before last year, or you'll be flooded with 1000s of pages of corona results.

v6RIOT · 08-31-2020, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Hollywood

I didn't watch the video, because you're always wrestling with Mishkin, so it's probably something you found that confirms your bias.

If you have covid and die, Covid will be on the certificate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veLB...ature=youtu.be
The flu isn't counted that way, the CDC said it, and said it way before Covid was a thought. Google "cdc influenza death certificate"

Edit: You might have to set the search for before last year, or you'll be flooded with 1000s of pages of corona results.

That’s not how I or anyone I know fills out death certificate

beanbat · 08-31-2020, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by v6RIOT

That’s not how I or anyone I know fills out death certificate

Yeah, but you're not a real doctor.

08-31-2020, 07:50 AM	#1
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BONESTOCK :niglaugh: Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: MA Posts: 16,854	Yup...it's so sad for the small business owners. __________________ 2004 Mach 1 "BONESTOCK"