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Old 04-03-2009, 09:14 AM   #1
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Its good to be a teacher in Pleasanton, Ca

"The average teacher salary across the State was $65,808 in 2008. The average Pleasanton teacher salary for 2008 was $81,446."

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extrapolated out for a full year's worth of work it equates to $108,594

Those of you young'ns in college, switch majors.
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Old 04-03-2009, 09:16 AM   #2
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Old 04-03-2009, 09:18 AM   #3
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What is the size of the reductions that the Pleasanton Unified School District (PUSD) is facing, given the cuts in funding from the State?

The school district does not yet have full information about what their 2009/10 budget allocation from the state will be. This will not likely be finalized until at least June or July of this year. In the meantime, the District was required to develop a balanced budget and to provide notice to certificated personnel of possible layoffs by March 15th.

PUSD prepared a report showing possible reductions for the 2009/10 budget year in the amount of $9.7 million, including cuts to student support programs, athletics, administrative and teacher training, counseling, class size reduction, administration, classified positions and operational functions as well as consideration of further possible cuts that would require negotiations with unions.
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Old 04-03-2009, 09:19 AM   #4
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"The average teacher salary across the State was $65,808 in 2008. The average Pleasanton teacher salary for 2008 was $81,446."

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You forgot one little part...

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The average teacher salary across the State was $65,808 in 2008. The average Pleasanton teacher salary for 2008 was $81,446. Out of this salary, Pleasanton teachers pay for their own medical benefits (estimated up to $12,000/year) as this is not a benefit offered to them.
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Old 04-03-2009, 09:24 AM   #5
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What is the size of the reductions that the Pleasanton Unified School District (PUSD) is facing, given the cuts in funding from the State?

The school district does not yet have full information about what their 2009/10 budget allocation from the state will be. This will not likely be finalized until at least June or July of this year. In the meantime, the District was required to develop a balanced budget and to provide notice to certificated personnel of possible layoffs by March 15th.

PUSD prepared a report showing possible reductions for the 2009/10 budget year in the amount of $9.7 million, including cuts to student support programs, athletics, administrative and teacher training, counseling, class size reduction, administration, classified positions and operational functions as well as consideration of further possible cuts that would require negotiations with unions.
Fvckers are still planning on paying out contract agreed upon raises this year. They're trying to pass a Measure G that would impose a $230 parcel tax in order to raise money. None of the money raised is supposed to be used for administrative salaries. However, just like the bailout, funding one bucket of money only to allow increases to be paid out of another isn't prohibited.

And the kicker is newest teachers are the ones facing cuts, so they're the lowest paid on the scale, which means if they laid off teachers they would have to let more teachers go to bridge the gap as opposed to letting go the older higher paid teachers - or a more "fair" approach of eliminating the poorest performing (which should result in a more general mix of old and new). Got to love unions......
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Old 04-03-2009, 09:26 AM   #6
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You forgot one little part...
You missed one little part "estimated up to"

Yeah, lets take the worst case scenario and present it as the typical.....fvck it, I pay a porition of my medical benefits as well out of my salary.

If you want to get into what benefits they do get (pensions, etc) lets go down that path.
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:04 AM   #7
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Damn

I think it's lame to extrapolate it out to a full year tho, I've never heard of a teacher working less than 60hrs/week.
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:08 AM   #8
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You missed one little part "estimated up to"

Yeah, lets take the worst case scenario and present it as the typical.....fvck it, I pay a porition of my medical benefits as well out of my salary.

If you want to get into what benefits they do get (pensions, etc) lets go down that path.
No, I didn't miss it - I included it.

And I've bought my own insurance and it was a fraction of that amount for basic coverage. But since most jobs do include it, and what you get probably is worth $1k/month, it is a fair figure to use.

At work I know my coverage costs the company $1,100/month - but I only pay about $130 out of pocket.

And being a state employee, I'm well aware of all the other benefits. I took a pay cut to come here, but factoring in everything it was probably a 15% raise.
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:10 AM   #9
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Damn

I think it's lame to extrapolate it out to a full year tho, I've never heard of a teacher working less than 60hrs/week.
I don't think I've ever worked less than 50hrs a week

And here is why I think it is fair, for as long as I can remember, I kept hearing that a teachers must be paid as high as they are in order for them to make a good annual salary. So even though they don't work the whole year, you have to pay them a years worth of pay (for market reasons). But you know if the schools ever went to a full year schedule instead of taking the summer months off the teacher's union would be pushing for an adjusted salary. You can't use the same argument for two sides of a coin......
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:11 AM   #10
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I don't think I've ever worked less than 50hrs a week

And here is why I think it is fair, for as long as I can remember, I kept hearing that a teachers must be paid as high as they are in order for them to make a good annual salary. So even though they don't work the whole year, you have to pay them a years worth of pay (for market reasons). But you know if the schools ever went to a full year schedule instead of taking the summer months off the teacher's union would be pushing for an adjusted salary. You can't use the same argument for two sides of a coin......
Yea, but I'm not the teacher's union nor would I support that.
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break that **** down by the hour....
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:15 AM   #13
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Yea, but I'm not the teacher's union nor would I support that.
You probably would also not support the "tenure" program that high school teachers and below get, nor the "job share" program that pays 40% of your annual salary for 2 day/week worth of work (i.e. school counslers).
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:17 AM   #15
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You probably would also not support the "tenure" program that high school teachers and below get, nor the "job share" program that pays 40% of your annual salary for 2 day/week worth of work (i.e. school counslers).
Our counselors were in 5 days And I've never heard of tenure below the university level here. I think your cali thing is wonky.
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Our counselors were in 5 days And I've never heard of tenure below the university level here. I think your cali thing is wonky.
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:43 AM   #17
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damn!!!! Im bout to go back to school to become a grade school teacher
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:45 AM   #18
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Our counselors were in 5 days And I've never heard of tenure below the university level here. I think your cali thing is wonky.
I agree. Hence why I hope they use this prop G to at least open the door to some sort of local reform. "You want my money, fine. Here is what I want in return...."
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Damn

I think it's lame to extrapolate it out to a full year tho, I've never heard of a teacher working less than 60hrs/week.

Hmmm, my kids go from 7:40 until 2:00.......when I pick them up at three there may be a handful of teachers at school and those are making extra money conducting the after school program.

FWIW, my BIL is a Principal and his wife is a teacher and they do not work 60 hours a week.....they have it made or so they tell me)
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Hmmm, my kids go from 7:40 until 2:00.......when I pick them up at three there may be a handful of teachers at school and those are making extra money conducting the after school program.

FWIW, my BIL is a Principal and his wife is a teacher and they do not work 60 hours a week.....they have it made or so they tell me)
You must be a pretty pathetically lousy worker if you've never taken work home with you.
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You must be living in a cave if you think teachers work 6 hours a night at home grading papers
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You must be living in a cave if you think teachers work 6 hours a night at home grading papers
Trufax, weekends don't exist.
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Old 04-03-2009, 03:12 PM   #23
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Not a bad gig at all, I must say
what kind of teaching credentials youve got mang?
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Department head/Athletic director, honors specialist in Phys Ed, quals in Science and Special Ed. Been doing it for 12 years now
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