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Old 03-02-2018, 08:52 AM   #1
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Question Thoughts on used Chevy Volts? (2013)

92 Beater Saturn is on its last legs, its been on it's last legs for years but refuses to actually die

Neighbor is thinking of selling his 2013 Volt with 37K miles on it for $11K. He let me take it for the day earlier this week and I have to say it is pretty neat to just Whirr around town on battery and pretty much make my normal commute on electric alone. That and being able to use the Carpool lane solo makes my commute time 15min shorter both ways.

Messing with the modes fires up the engine and its a bit different hearing the engine run independently of the throttle position. Electric torque is something else for sure. Nowhere near Tesla level but still can get off the line quick. If I was able to go full electric the EV Spark's have 400Tq electric motors which would be fun in a light little ecobox.

Figured the cost of charging it would be about $50 a month vs the $40 or so I have to spend each week in gas. If I have to put gas into it I figure it may only be once a month if that.
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Old 03-02-2018, 08:53 AM   #2
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Old 03-02-2018, 09:10 AM   #3
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$40 a week in gas
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Old 03-02-2018, 09:44 AM   #4
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IR says $40 is weaksauce.

Need to step your gas game up.
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Old 03-02-2018, 10:10 AM   #5
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Trade in on that is around $7500.
Private sale in perfect condition is $11K
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Old 03-02-2018, 10:46 AM   #6
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ive been thinking of one as well. im curious how often you have to replace batteries. i fill up every two days, $600 a month in gas. 120 mile round trip commute daily
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Old 03-02-2018, 10:57 AM   #7
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ive been thinking of one as well. im curious how often you have to replace batteries. i fill up every two days, $600 a month in gas. 120 mile round trip commute daily
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Old 03-02-2018, 11:04 AM   #8
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They say the batteries are good for 100K charges. And when you use them you are only using around the middle 30%-60% range which keeps them from going bad as fast as say normal EV only cars. However for that much of a commute you might need something more like a Bolt with 200+Mile EV range.
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Old 03-02-2018, 12:03 PM   #9
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IR says $40 is weaksauce.

Need to step your gas game up.
Iím getting 11 mpg highway and need to fill a 32 gallon tank twice a week, this thing is ridiculous
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Old 03-02-2018, 02:42 PM   #10
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Could never do a hybrid.....unless its a McLaren version.

Go full EV or cheap gas saver
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Old 03-02-2018, 03:05 PM   #11
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Warranty? Great car. I guess it comes down to your local kw/h rates for charging as well as charging options at work, etc. If you can get to work and back for free, sure why not? If its going to cost you X amount a month why not compare that to a traditional combustion engine car... theres some out there that get 40-50mpg. Sure they're probably hideous like a prius, but if you're looking at volts you're not exactly comparing a beauty queen either.

Out of warranty?

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Old 03-02-2018, 03:25 PM   #12
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Its within warranty and I will get an extended for it to be safe. It is also not really a hybrid like a Prius as the motor only in one mode actually connects to the wheels, the rest of the time the engine is just a generator and charges the batteries. Also doing the math on the mileage vs kWh totaled out to about $45-50 A month in charging cost with my commute which I though was pretty good. Where I am going to live the commute would be all Electric so I might never have to actually fill it up for the normal commute.

And while it isn't the best looking car, the Volt looks immensely better than a Prius and most other EV's outside of a Tesla.
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Old 03-02-2018, 03:28 PM   #13
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I would not be worried out of warranty either. Battery has 8 year / 100k warranty, but the powertrain warranty 5 year / 100k will just be ending.

However the vehicle is highly rated and very few failures. My wife has one as a daily driver, and it quickly turned into my favorite non-performance vehicle. So far we have ~75k miles, and maintenance has included 3 oil changes. The silent running on electric and responsiveness really makes ICE vehicles seem dated.

Highly recommended, and one of the highest owner satisfaction rated vehicles. Buy one.
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Old 03-02-2018, 03:55 PM   #14
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I've filled up the lr3 3 times in 3 days.
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Old 03-02-2018, 05:39 PM   #15
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I've filled up the lr3 3 times in 3 days.
You might as well club the baby seals yourself.
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Old 03-02-2018, 05:46 PM   #16
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I've filled up the lr3 3 times in 3 days.
Coolant and oil doesnít count.
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Old 03-02-2018, 05:49 PM   #17
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Coolant and oil doesnít count.
Man I should probably change the coolant.... I've never done it. Probably still on the factory coolant.
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Old 03-03-2018, 07:17 AM   #19
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I would definitely consider it. I would think gas prices will rise soon enough that it would be beneficial
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Old 03-05-2018, 07:41 AM   #20
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I would consult Mahk for Chevy related advice.
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Old 03-05-2018, 07:43 AM   #21
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You can lease them for super cheap.

We have a 2017 Volt for the wife and pay ~$230 a month with tax, $0 down for a 3 year lease. This is a fully decked out one.

The one has free charging at work so we almost never put gas in it since it goes 55 miles roughly on pure electric.

The car itself is a POS but it's super cheap. Typical low end interior, rattling, noises when you turn the steering wheel, etc. For us it's a disposable car.
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Old 03-05-2018, 09:02 AM   #22
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You can lease them for super cheap.

We have a 2017 Volt for the wife and pay ~$230 a month with tax, $0 down for a 3 year lease. This is a fully decked out one.

The one has free charging at work so we almost never put gas in it since it goes 55 miles roughly on pure electric.

The car itself is a POS but it's super cheap. Typical low end interior, rattling, noises when you turn the steering wheel, etc. For us it's a disposable car.
$230/month is not bad.

I had a Lyft rode in one and I was pretty impressed with the car. Seems like a good opportunity.

I say go for it.
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Old 03-06-2018, 04:39 AM   #23
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92 Beater Saturn is on its last legs, its been on it's last legs for years but refuses to actually die

Neighbor is thinking of selling his 2013 Volt with 37K miles on it for $11K. He let me take it for the day earlier this week and I have to say it is pretty neat to just Whirr around town on battery and pretty much make my normal commute on electric alone. That and being able to use the Carpool lane solo makes my commute time 15min shorter both ways.

Messing with the modes fires up the engine and its a bit different hearing the engine run independently of the throttle position. Electric torque is something else for sure. Nowhere near Tesla level but still can get off the line quick. If I was able to go full electric the EV Spark's have 400Tq electric motors which would be fun in a light little ecobox.

Figured the cost of charging it would be about $50 a month vs the $40 or so I have to spend each week in gas. If I have to put gas into it I figure it may only be once a month if that.
Fvcking go for it bro!!! Sounds like you are winning for sure.
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Old 03-06-2018, 09:17 AM   #24
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Looking to make the deal this week. I have seen the Gen 2 Volts and while they get a bit more electric range, it does seem the build quality dropped like a rock on them where the Gen 1 Volts were a bit overbuilt, and while still cheapish feeling inside, there wasn't a random rattle or squeak anywhere even after 37K miles.
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Old 03-07-2018, 01:21 PM   #25
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Gaining 15 minutes on your commute by using carpool is the biggest benefit I see here, by far, because time is very valuable to me and the frustration of traffic is very irritating to me, and these two factors would both be improved on a daily basis for you. Add to this "quality of life" factor the creature comforts of a newer car as well as reliability, etc.

The financial situation has three main factors: purchase price vs alternatives, run cost vs gas, and maintenance (being partly speculative). So, come up with a yearly number for the volt situation, your current situation, and alternatives using those three factors.

Now see which quality of life benefits are worth the financial number you are willing/able to pay?
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Old 03-13-2018, 11:55 AM   #26
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So got the Volt.

Commute time has dropped significantly both ways which is wonderful. About 30 minutes to work and back where before it was 45-60 easy. Being that smug jerk in the carpool lane is kinda fun.

So far have only burned about 1.5Gal with the rest being on battery, (about 5 days of commuting and misc driving so far) will be gas free when I move in a few months.

Car did look like it wasn't washed/vacuumed/cleaned at all since 2013. Also opened the hood and about

So got most of the interior cleaned out and looking a lot better. Exterior is a bit better and got most of the water spots off the side windows and mirrors but haven't had a chance to give it a good hand wash and detail yet.

First mod already done. The stock headlights were pretty awful so I got a set of LED lights which were a pretty nice upgrade. Pics of lights before/after.
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Old 03-13-2018, 12:41 PM   #27
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those LED bulbs look like they scatter light like a mofo
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Old 03-15-2018, 06:52 AM   #28
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those LED bulbs look like they scatter light like a mofo
They do. Its just like those idiots running ebay/amazon hid's without retrofitting their headlights, blinding everyone coming head on.

LED's are just the new fad but do the exact same thing.
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Old 03-15-2018, 07:55 AM   #29
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They do exactly what I hoped they would, push more light to the sides so I can see into turns better. Otherwise the projectors still have that sharp cutoff for the lowbeam that keeps the light from hitting drivers on normal roads. The high beam is literally just a flap that moves to allow the light to show above the cutoff.

The light problem I have seen increasingly lately around Sacramento are asshats driving around with their high beams on around town, on the freeway, etc. Most all look like completely clueless idiots with bad driving habits to boot.

That and people in Grey cars on a grey/cloudy day without any lights on at all.
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